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	<title>Comments on: Falling Into Life: A Gay Exmormon&#8217;s Journey</title>
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		<title>By: etienne</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>etienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colleen: Now you know why I&#039;m a Buddhist. You should seriously look into it. Meditation is such a great thing, and it replaces what I liked about &quot;prayer&quot;. If you&#039;d like some wonderful Buddhist reading, Pema Chodron *rocks*. Short, easy to read and absolutely refreshing!

BTW, neither of us will &quot;die that way&quot;. :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleen: Now you know why I&#8217;m a Buddhist. You should seriously look into it. Meditation is such a great thing, and it replaces what I liked about &#8220;prayer&#8221;. If you&#8217;d like some wonderful Buddhist reading, Pema Chodron *rocks*. Short, easy to read and absolutely refreshing!</p>
<p>BTW, neither of us will &#8220;die that way&#8221;. <img src='http://www.moesey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Parkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry --so many replies, but I had to add these two things.  Have you read the &quot;second annointing&quot; experience on exmo?  And I talked to my exmo therapist yesterday about all this (I&#039;ve been going to him for 11 years on and off)--and he said that Buddhists have a saying for those of us who think because they are our families we have to keep putting up with them--it is &quot;Idiot compassion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211;so many replies, but I had to add these two things.  Have you read the &#8220;second annointing&#8221; experience on exmo?  And I talked to my exmo therapist yesterday about all this (I&#8217;ve been going to him for 11 years on and off)&#8211;and he said that Buddhists have a saying for those of us who think because they are our families we have to keep putting up with them&#8211;it is &#8220;Idiot compassion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Parkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to believe my aunt doesn&#039;t have mental illness--the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to believe my aunt doesn&#8217;t have mental illness&#8211;the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Parkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, yes, my mother was beautiful--so very beautiful--and she died a very bitter woman.  Her sister is 70 years old and still beautiful (though mormon)--but that is how my mother looked and could have looked.  I have determined that THAT WON&#039;T BE ME.  I will not die that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, yes, my mother was beautiful&#8211;so very beautiful&#8211;and she died a very bitter woman.  Her sister is 70 years old and still beautiful (though mormon)&#8211;but that is how my mother looked and could have looked.  I have determined that THAT WON&#8217;T BE ME.  I will not die that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Parkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had to cut off contact with my sisters on Wednesday.  Long story.  I was trying to figure out yesterday how it got to be this way and I realized it has always been this way.  My dad asked me to make peace with my sisters before he died.  I did at great sacrifice to myself emotionally.  They decided to carry it on after his death (as my older sister especially decided to involve my developmentally disabled brother).  They let me have it Wednesday.  I came home and I wrote them both an e-mail and said, &quot;I&#039;m done.  I chose to get along for dad.&quot;  

When the worst happened 2 years ago--I chose to quit talking to my sisters.  I was very traumatized by that.  This time--it feels freeing.  Now that both my parents are gone--I CAN CHOOSE to be free of them.  They have always been poison to me.  My ex--every time I would express sadness over not being close to them anymore--he would say, &#039;Why in the h*ll would you want to be close to THOSE TWO?&#039;  

It isn&#039;t easy to do--to walk away, but this has been COMING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  

What you have been writing has been what I&#039;ve been going through IN THE HERE AND NOW.  It has been very therapeutic for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had to cut off contact with my sisters on Wednesday.  Long story.  I was trying to figure out yesterday how it got to be this way and I realized it has always been this way.  My dad asked me to make peace with my sisters before he died.  I did at great sacrifice to myself emotionally.  They decided to carry it on after his death (as my older sister especially decided to involve my developmentally disabled brother).  They let me have it Wednesday.  I came home and I wrote them both an e-mail and said, &#8220;I&#8217;m done.  I chose to get along for dad.&#8221;  </p>
<p>When the worst happened 2 years ago&#8211;I chose to quit talking to my sisters.  I was very traumatized by that.  This time&#8211;it feels freeing.  Now that both my parents are gone&#8211;I CAN CHOOSE to be free of them.  They have always been poison to me.  My ex&#8211;every time I would express sadness over not being close to them anymore&#8211;he would say, &#8216;Why in the h*ll would you want to be close to THOSE TWO?&#8217;  </p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t easy to do&#8211;to walk away, but this has been COMING FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.  </p>
<p>What you have been writing has been what I&#8217;ve been going through IN THE HERE AND NOW.  It has been very therapeutic for me.</p>
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		<title>By: etienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>etienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colleen,

You stated: &quot;He doesn’t remember her when she was beautiful–and my mother was beautiful at one time.&quot;

Wow, this sums up how I felt, too. As the years passed, I couldn&#039;t even remember when she was beautiful anymore. She was the constant reminder of how awful I was, we were, it all was. As she spiraled she pulled us all down with her. Who wants to be sad, lonely, and depressed alone?

And so we *all* became trapped into her poison. I was the only sibling who pushed back against it, and to my detriment. I asked all my sibs to agree to a &quot;pact&quot; where we would either cut her off when she started attacking one of us, or simply stand up and say, &quot;I can&#039;t talk like this, it&#039;s destructive to the family.&quot;

When my dad found this out, he called me to attack me for doing it and that was our last real conversation. I took control of my life, I told him he&#039;d *never* again attack me for trying to manage *his* wife and how she was killing me, all of us with her poison.

Gah! It&#039;s so awful to go through.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colleen,</p>
<p>You stated: &#8220;He doesn’t remember her when she was beautiful–and my mother was beautiful at one time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, this sums up how I felt, too. As the years passed, I couldn&#8217;t even remember when she was beautiful anymore. She was the constant reminder of how awful I was, we were, it all was. As she spiraled she pulled us all down with her. Who wants to be sad, lonely, and depressed alone?</p>
<p>And so we *all* became trapped into her poison. I was the only sibling who pushed back against it, and to my detriment. I asked all my sibs to agree to a &#8220;pact&#8221; where we would either cut her off when she started attacking one of us, or simply stand up and say, &#8220;I can&#8217;t talk like this, it&#8217;s destructive to the family.&#8221;</p>
<p>When my dad found this out, he called me to attack me for doing it and that was our last real conversation. I took control of my life, I told him he&#8217;d *never* again attack me for trying to manage *his* wife and how she was killing me, all of us with her poison.</p>
<p>Gah! It&#8217;s so awful to go through.</p>
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		<title>By: etienne</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>etienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edited to add:

&quot;One of the strangest, most out-there vision-based kookfest doctrines in Mormonism is called the &quot;Calling and Election Made Sure&quot;. This incredulous belief states that a person can receive a guarantee form Christ himself that he or she will achieve exaltation, or highest level planet ownership. Now imagine what happens if you&#039;re a leading General Authority or Priesthood holder and you need some attention. Simple! Start telling those around you that you were visited by Christ and you received your *calling and election made sure*. No one can say you didn&#039;t, not one person can challenge it! It can only happen between you and Christ!&quot;

I meant this to be in the original post.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edited to add:</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the strangest, most out-there vision-based kookfest doctrines in Mormonism is called the &#8220;Calling and Election Made Sure&#8221;. This incredulous belief states that a person can receive a guarantee form Christ himself that he or she will achieve exaltation, or highest level planet ownership. Now imagine what happens if you&#8217;re a leading General Authority or Priesthood holder and you need some attention. Simple! Start telling those around you that you were visited by Christ and you received your *calling and election made sure*. No one can say you didn&#8217;t, not one person can challenge it! It can only happen between you and Christ!&#8221;</p>
<p>I meant this to be in the original post.</p>
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		<title>By: Colleen Parkinson</title>
		<link>http://www.moesey.com/2009/03/451/comment-page-1/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Colleen Parkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was really wonderful--I knew where you were going.  That last paragraph.  My mother has only been gone for what--3 months now--and I have had the healing.  My younger brother--(youngest), he had a rough time with my parents.  Long story.  He doesn&#039;t remember her when she was beautiful--and my mother was beautiful at one time.  He said to me--not long after her death--I feel closer to her now than I ever have.  

The first thing he said to me when I talked to him after she died--he said that she no longer has to worry.  She, too, had mental illness and mormonism exacerbates it.  I loved the chapter--but especially that last paragraph.

I have made peace with my parents already.  I divorced my 2 sisters yesterday.  It is what I have needed to do almost my entire life.  I feel my parents, wherever they are, understand why.

THANK YOU for this chapter.  It is so much what I&#039;ve been going through now.

(As for visions--you are right, the sane mormons didn&#039;t tell their visions.  I learned that after I left the church, I still had &quot;visions&quot;--I always thought of them as inspiration.  Now I feel what mine have been is intuition.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was really wonderful&#8211;I knew where you were going.  That last paragraph.  My mother has only been gone for what&#8211;3 months now&#8211;and I have had the healing.  My younger brother&#8211;(youngest), he had a rough time with my parents.  Long story.  He doesn&#8217;t remember her when she was beautiful&#8211;and my mother was beautiful at one time.  He said to me&#8211;not long after her death&#8211;I feel closer to her now than I ever have.  </p>
<p>The first thing he said to me when I talked to him after she died&#8211;he said that she no longer has to worry.  She, too, had mental illness and mormonism exacerbates it.  I loved the chapter&#8211;but especially that last paragraph.</p>
<p>I have made peace with my parents already.  I divorced my 2 sisters yesterday.  It is what I have needed to do almost my entire life.  I feel my parents, wherever they are, understand why.</p>
<p>THANK YOU for this chapter.  It is so much what I&#8217;ve been going through now.</p>
<p>(As for visions&#8211;you are right, the sane mormons didn&#8217;t tell their visions.  I learned that after I left the church, I still had &#8220;visions&#8221;&#8211;I always thought of them as inspiration.  Now I feel what mine have been is intuition.)</p>
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